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From The Guardian:  https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/27/labour-party-worker-low-pay-zero-hours-owen-smith?

Labour was formed as the party of the worker. But we’ve forgotten who that is

 

Yvette Cooper MP:
“Labour needs to keep up. We are losing our traditional support as the working class fragments and people’s sense of identity changes. Trade unions aren’t reaching those in insecure work, including those who need workplace representation and protection most. The Labour party is neither inspiring those who want to get on, nor empowering those who feel angry at the lack of control they have over their lives.”

Hehehehe… OMG… Irony overload from Mrs Ed Balls!

Let’s just remind ourselves who she is…
Yvette, you are an Oxbridge educated career politician speaking on behalf of a cabal of other Oxbridge educated career politicians that form the bulk of the anti-Corbyn PLP plot.
You stood as a “heavy weight” leadership candidate 10 months ago and got trounced by the membership!
The Labour party was indeed formed to ensure that for every banker, aristocrat and boss sitting on the green benches, there would be a docker, a miner, factory worker and a steelworker sitting opposite.
Since that time our economy has changed, but where are the MPs from the call centres, care homes and warehouses?
Oh! They’ve been elbowed out by the likes YOU and your permanent political class.
Big-Pharma Pfizer & Amgen professional PR Lobbyist Owen “Man of the People” Smith, the poor man’s Sgt Bilko, is a figure firmly of YOUR establishment.

My support goes to Jeremy Corbyn the last remaining hope to reclaim a party for it’s roots in SOCIALISM & the WORKING CLASSES.

IMHO by far the best analysis of what has happened. Eventually people get fed up of being dictated to, told how to live, how much they are allowed to work and earn. That all the bad things are their own fault, and how we must worship bankers, politicians, journalists and the globalisers. The PLP haven’t noticed this, but there again nor have the Tories, nor the LibDems. The only political party that has is the SNP.

Even the pathetic nonsense of Corbyn being the ONLY person in the entire universe responsible for 52% of people voting Brexit shames journalists and his detractors alike.
He gave an adult argument – the EU is not perfect by any means, but on the whole it is better to be in than out.
My God, we can’t have a politician considering that the electorate is made up of adults! They must be told what to think! – (via the BBC of course!)

The PLP cannot understand why people in their own party are demanding a voice!
Where the fuck have they been?

Officially, the great and the good talk of “empowering” people. But it’s always the “kind of” empowering that doesn’t involve “politics”.

Funny that?

The movement that backed the Labour leader challenges MPs and journalists alike – because it’s about grassroots democracy

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/05/political-establishment-momentum-jeremy-corbyn

As the rolling catastrophe of what’s already being called the “chicken coup” against the Labour leadership winds down, pretty much all the commentary has focused on the personal qualities, real or imagined, of the principal players.

Yet such an approach misses out on almost everything that’s really at stake here. The real battle is not over the personality of one man, or even a couple of hundred politicians. If the opposition to Jeremy Corbyn for the past nine months has been so fierce, and so bitter, it is because his existence as head of a major political party is an assault on the very notion that politics should be primarily about the personal qualities of politicians. It’s an attempt to change the rules of the game, and those who object most violently to the Labour leadership are precisely those who would lose the most personal power were it to be successful: sitting politicians and political commentators.

If you talk to Corbyn’s most ardent supporters, it’s not the man himself but the project of democratising the party that really sets their eyes alight. The Labour party, they emphasise, was founded not by politicians but by a social movement. Over the past century it has gradually become like all the other political parties – personality (and of course, money) based, but the Corbyn project is first and foremost to make the party a voice for social movements once again, dedicated to popular democracy (as trades unions themselves once were). This is the immediate aim. The ultimate aim is the democratisation not just of the party but of local government, workplaces, society itself.

Occupy Wall Street marchers in 2011
 ‘I’ve spent much of the last two decades working in movements aimed at creating new forms of bottom-up democracy, from the Global Justice Movement to Occupy Wall Street [2011].’ Photograph: Frank Franklin II/AP

I should emphasise that I am myself very much an outside observer here – but one uniquely positioned, perhaps, to understand what the Corbynistas are trying to do. I’ve spent much of the past two decades working in movements aimed at creating new forms of bottom-up democracy, from the Global Justice Movement to Occupy Wall Street. It was our strong conviction that real, direct democracy, could never be created inside the structures of government. One had to open up a space outside. The Corbynistas are trying to prove us wrong. Will they be successful? I have absolutely no idea. But I cannot help find it a fascinating historical experiment. The spearhead of the democratisation movement is Momentum, which now boasts 130 chapters across the UK. In the mainstream press it usually gets attention only when some local activist is accused of “bullying” or “abuse” against their MP – or worse, suggests the possibility that an MP who systematically defies the views of membership might face deselection.

The real concern is not any justified fear among the Labour establishment of bullying and intimidation – the idea that the weak would bully the strong is absurd. It is that they fear being made truly accountable to those they represent. They also say that while so far they have been forced to concentrate on internal party politics, the object is to move from a politics of accountability to one of participation: to create forms of popular education and decision-making that allow community groups and local assemblies made up of citizens of all political stripes to make key decisions affecting their lives.

There have already been local experiments: in Thanet, the council recently carried out an exercise in “participatory economic planning” – devolving budgetary and strategic decisions to the community at large – which shadow chancellor John McDonnell has hailed as a potential model for the nation. There is talk of giving consultative assemblies real decision-making powers, of “banks of radical ideas” to which anyone can propose policy initiatives and, especially in the wake of the coup, a major call to democratise the internal workings of the party itself. It may all seem mad. Perhaps it is. But more than 100,000 new Labour members are already, to one degree or another, committed to the project.

If nothing else, understanding this makes it much easier to understand the splits in the party after the recent rebellion within the shadow cabinet. Even the language used by each side reflects basically different conceptions of what politics is about.
For Corbyn’s opponents, the key word is always “leadership” and the ability of an effective leader to “deliver” certain key constituencies.
For Corbyn’s supporters “leadership” in this sense is a profoundly anti-democratic concept. It assumes that the role of a representative is not to represent, not to listen, but to tell people what to do.

For Corbynistas, in contrast, the fact that he is in no sense a rabble rouser, that he doesn’t seem to particularly want to be prime minister, but is nonetheless willing to pursue the goal for the sake of the movement, is precisely his highest qualification. While one side effectively accuses him of refusing to play the demagogue during the Brexit debate, for the other, his insistence on treating the public as responsible adults was the quintessence of the “new kind of politics” they wished to see.

What all this suggests is the possibility that the remarkable hostility to Corbyn displayed by even the left-of-centre media is not due to the fact they don’t understand what the movement that placed him in charge of the Labour party is ultimately about, but because, on some level, they actually do.

After all, insofar as politics is a game of personalities, of scandals, foibles and acts of “leadership”, political journalists are not just the referees – in a real sense they are the field on which the game is played.

Democratisation would turn them into reporters once again, in much the same way as it would turn politicians into representatives. In either case, it would mark a dramatic decline in personal power and influence. It would mark an equally dramatic rise in power for unions, constituent councils, and local activists – the very people who have rallied to Corbyn’s support.

Mark summed up the abject failure of Miliband’s Labour in this video.

They never stood with the people at parliament square, the anti-austerity, They never stood with the firefighters, They never stood with the nurses, They never stood against ideological austerity, They never stood with the underground strikers, They never stood with the evicted Mums at Sweets way estate in London… BUT, They stood with the TORIES over Yes Scotland​ and everyone saw THIS.

Labour is a busted flush. It’s had it’s time. Socialism needs to radically alter to meet people’s needs not the needs of career politicians and councillors and assembly ministers and Euro-MPs. The arseholes in suits no longer represent anyone but their own interests.

I’m despondent. Yes.

For what it’s worth, I have repeatedly said voting isn’t the Apex of political activity, as the majority in Britain think it is, voting is just part of the engagement.
Tony Benn said, we have to keep fighting the same battles over and over again because the generations coming along, keep making the same mistakes as those before them…

Or alternatively we could sell our souls and remain as worthless wage slaves and sheeple – useless eaters and stock, as Iain Duncan Smith refers to anyone who isn’t him…

It was always going to end like this for the Ed Miller Band, not even the most deluded fan saw him as leader of the gang.
What this election of, Call Me Dave Part Deux, is going to do is turn Britain into something like the 80’s of mass unemployment, a health service that cant cope, and a rise in the super-rich LOADSAMONEY class in the South.

A lot of people in this country should now be ashamed of themselves today, many of them will be the worst effected, but they won’t of course.
Another sad day in the decline of Britain.

Only a true Independent Scotland will save the day for socialism.

England is fucked, it will descend into violence, nationalistic and racial. 3.8million nationalistic UKIPpers voted with just one seat, they will realise 1.4 millions Scots voters got 56 seats, there may well be riots, but for the wrong reasons.

Wales will be forgotten, it already has been. Truly fucked.